Magento

I have download MTO, and after how install MTO ?

There are 3 files in “Metrof/MadeToOrder/install.files/”

README
DOC
and INSTALL

Follow the INSTALL, then follow the DOC to run the back-end.

Basically, you have to copy XML files and templates to a couple places, then create product attributes and tell MTO about the attributes.

ok thanks
Is it with this module MTO that I was able to sell my products by 6 ?

Bruno of Paris

Yeah, I think you have to add an attribute called “case” or “case_ct” to your products.

yes, make an attribute called “case”

you need to add some XML to the layout/madetoorder.xml file

instructions are here:

http://biz.metrofindings.com/main.page/Made_to_Order_MTO_Magento_Module

First of all, great module, I can already see many different applications that this will be really helpful for.

I am having a couple problems after installing.  One is that I get the error ‘mto:no such product’ on the first configurable product in the category, and it truncates all products thereafter.  I’ve remedied this by commenting out lines 60 & 61 in product.php but I’m guessing there is a better solution (or something I’ve configured wrong).  The second problem I’m having is getting the attributes to display properly on the product.  I can get width / height / comment to display fine, but can’t get any variation in attributes.  I’m guessing there’s something I’m missing in configruing the xml - is there any way you could outline what the xml layout is?

@StarGumbo

yes, remove line 60, that should be gone.  That was just for testing the ajax calls.

It seems that a lot of people have trouble installing, and I’m not sure where the problem is.  Can you PM me for an installation that I can see?  That is probably the only way that I can tell which instructions are not clear to others.

I don’t know what you mean about showing variations in the attributes.  All the mto_* attributes should not be visible on the front-end.  Any variation comes from the mto_*_min and mto_*_max product attributes.

The only change to the layout is that the product_view_type_simple file is replacing the catalog/product/view/type/simple.phtml file.  This new file calls a child block which has the template “customsize.phtml” right under the input box.

This module does not work with configurable products, only simple products.  It is meant as a replacement of configurable products.

Unfortunately I don’t have a published version at this time, but I assure you I have it installed properly.  I didn’t find the install all that difficult and have done it about 5 times now to ensure proper installation.  But then again I’ve been working with Magento since October so I have at least a basic understanding of what Magento wants.  If you could give a map of the XML file with what details go where it would be helpful.

What I mean by variations in attributes is this; no matter what sizing attributes I change in the Configuration panel, I can still see only Height and Width from the front end.  If I add and remove the ‘comments’ attribute, it functions as it should.  I haven’t tried adding several text fields.

What I find this especially useful for is quotes.  If someone wants a quote for a custom storage area, it would be great for them to get four different quotes without having to submit 4 different forms with their name/email/etc.  I hadn’t tried applying it to a configurable product yet but I could see how that could tie in nicely actually.

Thanks again for your work on this

@stargumbo

I think i can whip up some screenshots and highlight which parts of the pages related to which template files and layout files.  Is that what you’re looking for?

If you’re only seeing height and width on the product page, perhaps it’s a bug in the madetoorder/view.phtml file.  That might not be cycling through the attributes properly, it might be hard coded to only do WxH and 1 text box.

A quote system that interacts with the cart would be a cool idea.  I’m thinking of a special “contact us” form that, when submitted, will read the user’s cart, format it as an order (line items, quantities, details) and store it in the DB with a status, or e-mail it to someone.  And then reset their cart.

The only problem would be stopping someone from checking out with those products, or really driving home the differences between getting a quote and placing an order with instructions.

Dear Mark,

couple of questions:

1. Metric Support:
How exactly would I set up the three attributes mto_width_min, mto_width_max & mto_width_step to have it shown on the frontpage like this (example just for width):
1st dropdown: only meters (1m, 2m, 3m, 4m etc. up to max-cm/100)
2nd dropdown: only centimeters (10cm, 20cm .. 90cm = stepping)
So the logic is, 1m + 30cm to choose from if the customer wanted a 130cm wide piece. Right now, it shows centimeters in the first dropdown as well as in the second (just for this one width-attribute).

2. How do I set up MTO to accept two numbers (like width & length) as text-input on the frontend? (How can I make the text-input-fields appear?)

3. Price Calculation (How?)
a )Can the squaremeter-price be calculated from the text-input?
b) How do I tell it to calculate the squaremeter out of what was chosen (either input or dropdown)?
c) Will I have to update/change a certain file within the module to accomplish that?

Thank you very much, again. I wish there were more public questions asked and less “behind the scenes” about this fine module so that everybody can learn and contribute.

Cheers

1. Setup the product attributes as detailed in the instructions on
http://biz.metrofindings.com/main.page/Made_to_Order_MTO_Magento_Module

Tell your specific product that MTO step is 10, for 10 centimeter increments in the second drop down.

2. To use text boxes, use the admin panel and set the mto_width variable to plain text, use as dimension=no.
Do the same for mto_height

3.  To use the price calculations, all you need to do is setup the XML file properly.
a. yes
b. this is done in the Helper, or the Model, I forget
c. Yes, the XML in the pricing sheets folder.

@Mark: thanks
For quetsion number 1.:

this is how it is set up:
mto_width_max: 1000 (largest width is 10 meters)
mto_width_min: 100 (smallest being 1 meter)
mto_width_step: 10 (increments of 10cm)

This is what it shows:
1st. dropdown: 100cm, 200cm ... 900cm and then (?): 1m
2nd dropdown: 0cm 10cm, 20cm, 30cm ... (alright)

The first dropdown, though, should show “1m” instead of “100cm”. (As it is right now, the “1m” after the “900cm” isn´t logic, in that sense.)

I accomplished to “show” it in the right manner by changing the file “Block/Product/ view.php” at line 156 & 157. Instead of “1000” I put “100” there. This gives me exactly what want with the above settings - though I´m pretty sure this is a bad hack, since I didn´t really know what I was doing there.

Maybe you can help a little further on this. Thank you.

the first drop down is always one power of 10 greater than the smallest… i couldn’t figure out any other better way to do it.

so, 10 cm increments are going to give you:

drop down 1

100
200
300
..

and drop down 2

0 cm
10 cm
20 cm
...
90 cm

Otherwise, you have a dropdown with 100 entries in it.

So, you want drop down 1 to be 2 powers of 10 greater than the smallest step,

1000
2000
3000
...

and have the second drop down be from 0 to 1000 / step

0
10
20
...
90
100
110
120
...
980
990 cm

Incidentally, this is why working with Metric is actually harder than the English system.  There’s really 2 sets of significant numbers with “decimeters” being almost like a fraction to meters, and centimeters being a fraction to decimeters.  With inches you can get away without using feet for quite a while, it’s not unusual for someone to order 480 & 1/2”, instead of 40’ & 1/2”.

Okay, I messed up the metric calculations.  I setup the system thinking about 1 cm increments, then I did the testing with 10 cm increments and didn’t notice that it was not correct. 

@h_wxlr you’re fix is correct and it’s going into 0.7.0

ok, at the same time I wrote a whole long post explaining the metric system --> deleted anyway, thanks.

(1km = 1000m; 1m = 100cm; 1cm = 10mm and 1m is also 10dm BUT decimeters are commonly not used, a 1.3m long piece is one meter plus 30 centimeters ...