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Joomla! integration and license violation

Many of those who have been following recent Joomla and 3d party developments heard and read a well-known forum topic.
As it is known, many commercial extensions developers as well as developers of open source extensions that are not being used GPL license had to leave Joomla.
One of the examples that can illustrate this tendency is termination of the popular SMF-Joomla Bridge component development.

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  1. i960

    1i960 posted Fri, November 2, 2007

    I just had a look at GNU’s website regarding compatibility between GPL and other licenses.  Magento is distributed under the Open Software License (OSL 3.0).  According to GNU:

    The Open Software License is a free software license. It is incompatible with the GNU GPL in several ways.

    Recent versions of the Open Software License have a term which requires distributors to try to obtain explicit assent to the license. This means that distributing OSL software on ordinary FTP sites, sending patches to ordinary mailing lists, or storing the software in an ordinary version control system, is arguably a violation of the license and would subject you to possible termination of the license. Thus, the Open Software License makes it very difficult to develop software using the ordinary tools of free software development. For this reason, and because it is incompatible with the GPL, we recommend that no version of the OSL be used for any software.

    We urge you not to use the Open Software License for software you write. However, there is no reason to avoid running programs that have been released under this license.

    Link: http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/license-list.html

    Since Joomla is licensed under GPL, would this then prevent a Joomla/Magento bridge, since the licenses are not compatible?

  2. Mexx

    2Mexx posted Thu, November 15, 2007

    Quite a good question! We might need to ask Varien direcly whether is problematic. Also the Joomla team could be asked.

  3. 3da8iwr posted Sun, December 16, 2007

    Has any news been brought forward to use Magento, onto Joomla.

    I have many sites using Virtuemart, and i am very willing to move over to what i have seen here so far, the only problem is you dont have other parts needed, such as Blogs, Forums, Galleries etc.

    So if you could make this join some how to a good CMS like Drupal or Joomla, i would be very willing to move over.

    Regards
    Ian

  4. 4dax702 posted Wed, January 2, 2008

    I think for the vast majority of people that are starting to use content management systems, they are not coders.  This is the reason they have become so popular.  From what I’ve seen so far with Magento, the CMS part of it isn’t for the average guy that doesn’t know HTML inside and out.  But the shopping cart end of Magento is amazing! This is why I believe a Joomla CMS coupled with Magento shopping cart would be a wonderful combo! I hope it happens too

  5. 5mariusvr posted Fri, January 11, 2008

    If people are keen, magnento can be added as a plugin to the JFusion framework. JFusion is GPL compliant with integrating non-GPL licensed softwares. I am completely tied down with upgrading the current framework at the moment and therefore will need someone else do code the JFusion plugin (you will have a code template to modify to make it specific for magneto).

    more info on JFusion:

    http://forum.joomla.org/index.php/topic,243018.0.html
    http://joomlacode.org/gf/project/jfusion/

  6. 6mariusvr posted Fri, January 11, 2008

    One more note, JFusion is a GPL plugin to the Joomla CMS framework. Therefore this solution would only work for integrating Magento with Joomla smile

    Cheers, Marius

  7. 7dax702 posted Fri, January 11, 2008

    As I’m not a coder, I don’t know anything about JFusion or integration. Mariusvr, have you mentioned this in the Joomla forum discussion (at joomla.org) because as I last recall they were having this very discussion about licensing issues with regard to getting Magento integrated..

  8. 8mariusvr posted Fri, January 11, 2008

    OK, also made a post on the Joomla forum on the Joomla->Magento discussion topic there.

  9. 9sckavy posted Sun, February 3, 2008

    Hey guys...Anything new yet on the Joomla and Magento integration? The release of the stable version of Magento is getting close.

  10. 10dax702 posted Sun, February 3, 2008

    Haven’t heard anything, but I’d like to know if it was ever decided if Magento and Joomla 1.0.X could be integrated at all?

  11. 11edwards posted Wed, February 6, 2008

    Like mariusvr said, his jfusion component framework could avoid licence problems, meanwhile this guy is already working on integration:
    http://www.magentocommerce.com/boards/viewthread/437/P15/

  12. 12sckavy posted Wed, February 6, 2008

    Edwards, I read the thread from the link you posted and that’s great news shock ! I can’t wait to see the result. I will definitely be checking back on this.

  13. 13dax702 posted Sat, February 23, 2008

    1.0000000000000000000 integration is what we need. Lots of us will not be moving to J! 1.5 for a while yet…

  14. Dan Knauss

    14Dan Knauss posted Thu, March 20, 2008

    I agree that 1.0.x integration is needed until it becomes clear that 1.5 is catching on and an effective upgrade system from 1.0 to 1.5 is created.

    I suggest making the 1.0.x Joomla integration compatible with Mambo also. Many m/j developers have been creating extensions (such as VirtueMart) compatible with both systems, or else versions exist to meet this need. Mambo 4.6.x and Joomla 1.0.x are not very different and share the same codebase. Mambo has a great development roadmap and a good future as well.

  15. 15tornu posted Sat, April 12, 2008

    regarding compatibility between GPL and other licenses, can’t confirm Roy Rubin posted this but on:
    http://groups.drupal.org/node/9939#comment-33808

    “I can confirm that licensing is not an issue. We’ve discussed such scenarios with our legal counsel and there is no issue whatsoever.

    Roy / Magento”

  16. 16dax702 posted Sat, April 12, 2008

    Tornu, nice find there! If that’s the case I really hope they integrate Magento with Joomla 1.0 ! !  I’d be more than willing to contribute to that project…


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