Magento

This may have already been asked and if so please point me to the right direction.

Is there a way to update version changes with Magento without wiping out the mysql database and configuration?

If I had customers, products and preferences in my current Magento installation
this would be a real pain to have to do every time there was a platform improvement.

Thank you

you can do it right now, the updates are supplied with <db_type>-upgrade-<from_version>-<to_version>.sql files that used to upgrade current version of modules db structure.

All the module versions are stored in `core_resource` table per module, and if these versions are lower than ones in the code, Magento will look for these update files and apply them, updating current version of modules in database.

Also i would like to mention that module / design package management is in the works, that will provide web admin interface for upgrades.

Thanks for the quick reply and explanation Moshe.

Thanks for the info guys....

I’m a web designer and I’m making a store for my client......I looked for many CMS eCommerce system and had made my mind for the OScommerce....
But I was not satisfied with the look and feel of it (looks very outdated)......then suddenly I came across Magento and I was amazed after I saw the Demo store.....
Downloaded and Installed the other day.....had to do the php 4 installation cauz my server doesn’t have php 5....
Anyways, the installation was smooth.....(not really ) .......Now the other day I came back to the Magento site and saw an Update
Now I’m not used to CMS management....but i want to impress my clients with the store......I have a lot of work to do in the store and have to complete it by this weekend...that includes a new Skin also ....

I know that magento is beta right now but i still convinced my clients to use it........now i don’t want to make troubles for them......I told them that they will be able to update from their admin panel...like any other system.......but didn’t know that there is no feature like that (right now...)

Please can anyone give me proper directions on how to update manually? ......I really can’t figure out that......the above post says that we can update but i still don’t think that i know what I exactly have to do

This is going to be a proper retail store on a Beta platform......its not maybe the best choice to use a Beta in a Big store but we have to start from somewhere…
Just want that there should be no problems or major bugs....because my clients doesn’t know anything about cms or any other system.....so i have to set up everything for them.....after that they’re just going to add more stuff etc. to it thats all..........

Hope that a stable version comes out soon....

Magento Rocks !

@TeamBeyond

It would be irresponsible at best to provide a Magento solution to a “client” right now. It’s still very much a Preview release that’s full of bugs and half-completed features (no offense to the Varien team - they already knew that was going to be the case).

The templating system changed significantly over the last 2 releases and will likely change again before it’s stable.

To put a “client” at the helm right now would be a disaster IMHO. Are you doing this for short-term gratification or long-term success? If the former, have at it (just don’t expect that “client” to think much of you in the end). Otherwise, take a pill, relax, and explain to your client that it’ll be Q1 2008 at best before they can expect a Magento solution.

Thanks Ron for your concern…

Well, yes you are very much right about this matter....as well as I am also aware of that this is going to take some time.....
But the problem is that my Client has his heart stuck with this.....(mine too ) .....
This is what he was looking......right now his store is all manually built by the people who designed his site....So it has no admin panel or anything like a Shopping Cart system.......Now he didn’t know anything about eCommerce and CMS .......
But now when I showed him the admin panel he is really exited about the store......

In reality its going to be a tee-shirt store with 3 categories (Mens/Girls/Kids) .......
The Range is also not too big.....but the thing is that his business is growing very rapidly and he wants a professional store asap....

I hope that this Beta keeps up to the pace......I know its not stable but the thing is that waiting for the final release and then shift to Magento from some other CMS is more stupid ....
I’ll try to keep him updated with the latest versions till a Final one comes out.........My only concern is the layout......although I read about the Custom template system here http://www.magentocommerce.com/blog/category/features/ I think it will not be too hard to keep the template updated:)

I’m not sure......All he’s gonna do is sell stuff.....And all i have to give him is a proper store.....

I think i’m gonna give it a try......will tell him to take backups everyday…

What do u say guys ? ^^

Oh and btw......How do I update ? ......I have that new version downloaded for 1 day now and just waiting to know how to update…

Thanks

I think you should hold off on Magento for now.  I am running an osCommerce store at the moment, and my boss (as well as myself) desperately wants something new, and Magento looks like it’s going to fit the bill nicely.  Originally we looked at BakeSale, but it’s missing a whole lot of very important features, and development seems to be very slow.  I stumbled across Magento 2 weeks ago, and I’m getting ready to give my boss a presentation on it to convince him that this is something worth doing, but that we need to wait for a stable release.  I’m going to use the time between now and then to familiarize myself with how Magento works, because it’s vastly different than osCommerce.  When there is a stable release of Magento, I should be comfortable enough to start building a new site based on it.

That said, I can certainly understand your desire to use it now.  Also something that everyone should keep in mind, especially those coming from osCommerce.  Even though Magento is beta software and not suitable for production use, so is osCommerce.  Yet thousands of people use osCommerce, some for rather large sites.  The base code isn’t too bad, but you have to install dozens of contributions just to get what I would consider basic functionality.  A large percentage of contributions for osCommerce are poorly written and full of bugs.  Plus there are compatibility issues when you try to install two different contributions that mess with the same core code.  It creates a very unstable situation.  I have my osCommerce site working for the most part after years of frustrations and sleepless nights.  There are some key things that I really need to get working on osCommerce that Magento has by default, but at this point I am afraid to touch it any more.  I’m going to wait it out.

You’ve sold your client on Magento, as have I.  Now you have to convince them to be patient until the early new year.  Using the current release in a live environment is irresponsible.  Way too many bugs and features in the works to create anything reliable that won’t be dated 2 months from now.

Although we are very carefully following the development-steps for Magento, we are still installing Os/ZenCart for our customers - and we wont even mention Magento for them until Varien has released a Stable-version. My recommendation is that you all do it like that to your clients.

An alternative is ofcourse to tell them that you wont have an ecommerce-system up running until around 6 months.

Humm.....I don’t know.......I quoted the posts here to the client but he’s still ready to take the chance.......
His business is going down because of his current store which not even a proper store.....And he doesn’t wants to waste time.....

What can the worse thing be if he uses Magento ? .....I even told him that you are the first one to use it (if he uses it) ....and he’s still ready.....

I need to think quick because there is a lot of work to be done and i need to complete it by this weekend....

What If I provide him support and updates till a final version comes out.....I’ve already started understanding Magento (Although I still can’t update it )....

I’ll wait for one more final reply from you guys and then I’ll decide........

Man this is really bad.....I was half way done with a new template for the store :(

Thanks guys......really Appreciate !

I spent some time on OSCommerce then found it was not evolving and switched to zencart since 1.37.  They have recently released 1.38 and to be honest the shop is stable and the admin module easy to configure.  Lots of addons available too.
I.m sure if you install it without the demo shop and fill in your own catalog , you can have it up and running in a weekend.

I look forward to moving to Magento if it evolves into a truly multi lingual, multinational and multicultural e-commerce solution.
zencart does not even know that ‘europe exists when you install it...Closest you can get is US ARMED FORCES EUROPE ..
Multi lingual interfaces are a must too in europe .

Thats why I have high expectations of Magento !

Please make Magento a truly worldwide solution when it comes to default currencies, date formats, and please don’t make all the good functionality an optional non supported add on like zencart when 99 % of your userbase requires it !

I have magento locally and am in process of evaluating it for future use. First impression is that the look and feel is really nice and intuitive.

ZenCart is now on 1.3.8 with ver 2.0 coming in the new year with php5 support required. I have built several zencart shops for clients and they have been mostly happy. The templates are easy to make and modify. If you need a quick eCommerce solution, let Zen fill the gap until Magento matures to a stable product.

I stumbled onto Magento the other day, and am excited by this release. It provides many features that are either not available in Zencart, or only through a user created addin ... support for these addins is often sketchy, and not kept up to day with zencart releases.

To my knowledge, the Zencart team has NO plans of doing anything even close the what Magento is attempting, so in the end it won’t really be a competitive product.

I see a lot of ecommerece program, and as i see the zencart the only thing that is not good with it is the subcategories. For me i prepare Magento to develop.

I see a lot of e commerce program, and as i see the zencart the only thing that is not good with it is the subcategories. For me i prepare Magento to develop.