Magento

Greven - 13 April 2008 12:19 PM

I’m getting great to ok speeds on my test server at this link.  Looks that with the right hosting, you can do wonders with it. This is a very little to none-tweaked server.

well there are no products.........

Part of the backend performance hit is associated with Variens choice of using Scriptaculous + Prototype as the JS framework, in my opinion jQuery would have loaded a fair amount faster (Benchmark http://www.webdevelopment2.com/jquery-prototype-mootools-benchmark-slickspeed/), but i am biased, i love jQuery.
Also, what you might want to try using safari for managing your backend (i still love FireFox, but in all honesty, Safari’s JS rendering times are quite amazing), i can tell you from personal experience that it makes a huge difference.

Edit: When last i looked, prototype was still on version 1.5 and the performance difference was quite different (prototype 1.5 is currently in use in Magento).

Edit Again: Apparently Firefox 3 beta 5 has also inproved in leaps and bounds with their JS rendering times… can anyone confirm?

Guys i’m running this on:

Dell Poweredge 6850 with 32GB of Ram, 4x 3.2ghz Xeons and 8x SAS 15k drives.
Brand new CentOS 5.1 Install
PHP 5.2.5 (with eaccelerator)
MySQL 5.something (localhost)

The thing is running like an absolute dog.

Stop being indignant and blaming hardware and shared hosts and start thinking what these users might be doing to encounter this.

Steps i’ve taken so far:

Downloaded software
Un-tarred it to location
Untarred bug fix
Downloaded sample data
Moved media into place
Executed sql file in my database, set up users etc.
Ran through install which was sluggish anyway

Have done nothing else, vanilla store, cant even log into the dashboard ‘cause php must be timing out before it gets a chance.

So what gives, what did I do wrong in the above?

OR what is wrong with Magento?

Quite happy to admit I missed a step and fucked something up somewhere if I have, but dont blame the above hardware and platform, if it doesnt work on that, it’s not production ready.

When I browse to the homepage or /index.php/admin the apache process hits nearly 99%!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Ok, dashboard finally TRIED to come up, this is the total HTML output

So I´ve been theming and testing and moduling Magento for a month, continiously, now. It´s all fine, some things really hard to grasp & time consuming (e.g. attributes with all the products, the template-"engine").

I thought Magento would be the solution (for getting away from year-old shopping-platforms like xt/os-commerce).

It is not, for me and probably many others: It doesn´t run on normal virtual servers (tested a few), e.g. the cart needs at least 38 seconds to load. It runs just as slow on any local configurations (MAMP, XAMP, etc.). I know, one shouldn´t test any web-application local - but if Magento takes up 90% of my MacBook´s resources to load the cart - that´s a bad sign for me..

Magento is not your solution if you have normal webspace, or anything up to shared hosting or a v-server.

Magento is open source but it might be your solution if: You take the money to invest in a fast, dedicated server that is explicetly configured and set up for Magento, invest in an admin and invest in Varien´s Platinum Partners to get the functionality and speed you want.

Simply and offensively put: Varien has made Magento so complicated and “ready-for-improvements” so you can pay their partners.

I still think they have put a lot of thought, work and effort into it. But not stating that this is really not for you normal 10-T-Shirts-a-day-sellers, but rather for the big companies who are willing to take a lot of money into their hands for further development, not explicitly stating this I have to blame Varien for.

Open Source is great -as well is when everybody can make their share with a new application. But I personally feel fooled.
(Having to tell my customer: Yeah! We go with Magento, it´s all great, they say.” A month later: “Wait, oh no, we cannot! You´d have to spend 150 € per months on a server, like 15 times more than you do today to sell the same stuff...!")

Thank you Varien, Community and Magento. I´ll check back, again. For the time until then, I´m over at Prestashop.

Some open acknowledgement and support for optimal setup/deployment/configuration here for everyone using the product would be most helpful. I’ve experienced multiple delays in a project after selling Magento as stable and ready for primetime.